Before I started using Formula 14...30 years ago , my fingers were so sore it was very difficult to even wipe after going...( Know what I'm saying ?). I have the complimentary bottle a try and have not looked back ! ALL of my sore joints have improved. I got bold , and stopped taking it a couple of times over the years , but within a couple of weeks I was reordering . I've highly recommended it to lots of people . What can I say...give it a try !